Saturday, January 1, 2011

Dorian Gray CH 4

How do Lord Henry's comments about Sibyl Vane give the reader an understanding of traditional late eighteenth-century opinions about gender?

11 comments:

  1. Lord henry refers to women as a "decorative sex" meaning they are only around for beauty, more as prize possession, not a genius like men, they use thier intelligence over the everyday values of life. That inorder to get a "plain" women's courtship at that time you can take her out to dinner just gain a reputation in town. The "coloured" women try and look younger by painting thier lives away.
    He is basically stating that eighteen-century women weren't good for a having nice coversation to, they were more into being beautified and extravagant things. They didnt have the capablity of being a "genius" or having any sort of intelligent mind for that matter.

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  2. In the book "Dorian Grey" Lord Henry say that woman are Decorative Sex, like in the 18th century they only for eye candy. Something just to look at not for a relationship in love but just to show the girl in public. woman was judt like talent show in the 18th century.They only got the woman for show not for a relationship. In the 18th century the women did ot care for love they only wanted to look good.They were material women just like women in present day.

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  3. -In the text, Lord Henry and Dorian are talking. Dorian brings up an actress he is in love with and thinks very highly of her. Lord Henry replies and states his opinion of women, mentioning that women a decorative sex which means they are mostly to show off their beauty and not their mind. This point is also proven when he says they represent the triumph of matter over mind. This insert in the chapter shows that in the 18th century, most men married woman just for show and didn't think highly of them as far as their way of thinking and their opinions.

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  4. Based on the comments Harry gave towards Sibyl vane suggest that men in the 18th century, weren't committed or sentimental to women in marriages. As soon as Dorian states that Vane is a "genius", Harry immediately has averse feelings. Lord Harry says, women are decorative sex - with nothing to say, but say it charmingly."
    In this passage, it gives a moral background by placing women on a shelf; only to say they're only concerned with their looks and perception of beauty. *

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  5. In the passage it seemed as if Lord Henry looked at Sibyl Vane as a possession almost. It seems he judgeds women simply on their looks. He figured that being faithful was just a gesture that couldnt be done. A quote that really attracted me was when he said "people wouldnt throw away things if they know someone esle would pick them up". I think this is a metaphor reffering back to Sibyl vane he probably thinks she is not as pure as Dorian Grey but he found facsination in their intrest in eachother. " He was the least bit jealous or annoyed by their relationship"

    Shaneal Prd. 1

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  6. While Lord Henry and Dorian talk about the woman Dorian is in love with and lord henry states that women are decorative sex meaning they are only usefull for their looks and nothing more they weren't portrayed as being smart

    Devonta Streetman PD 1

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  7. Ashley, how is this similar or different to 21st century opinions of women?

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  8. Alphonzo,
    You say that 18th century women are materialistic, just like the women of today. Do you think that Lord Henry's attitude towards of women still exists today? Are women really still seen as "the decorative sex?" Do all men have this attitude towards women in the 21st century, or are there various attitudes towards women that a man can have.

    I AM VERY CURIOUS TO HEAR YOUR RESPONSE!

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  9. Dorian tells Lord Henry about his love for Sibyl Vane, and how he wants to marry her. Lord Henry laughs at Lord Henry, and state that, "women are just decorative sex." I see this as him saying that women are just here as a sexual possession of men. This ties in to the thought of a the woman's role in the time period. Lord Henry would see a would put a woman in the same category as his nice car, painting,watch, or any other materialistic object.

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  10. i meant Lord Henry Laughs at Dorian.

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  11. Dorian Gray wants to marry Sibyl Vane, but when he tells Lord Henry he replies with " women are just a decorative sex". When he says this he means during this time period men liked to show off their women like objects.

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